A Tangent Universe~ Donnie Darko and S.Darko

It seems we all share the same destiny:death.

  Are we all here for a reason? Do we all have something we were meant to carry out?

Donnie Darko

Donnie Darko

“If the sky were to suddenly open up, there would be no law, there would be no rule. It would only be you and your memories, the choices you made, and the people you touched. If this world were to end, there would only be you, and him, and no one else.”

Donnie Darko is my all time favorite movie, and I had the pleasure of finally being able to watch S. Darko today. My fiance never watched the full movie (Donnie Darko) and does not wish to see S. Darko, so I had to watch it alone today while he was at work. The little bit that he did watch of Donnie Darko convinced him Donnie was crazy and it was all in his mind. I wonder how many others see the movie, or more particularly see Donnie, this way. Not once through either movie did I get the impression that we were supposed to think either Donnie or his sister Sam were crazy, but perhaps that is just my opinion.

How many chances do you think we are given by some unseen, higher power to right the wrongs, correct the mistakes..to do things over again?

Do you believe Donnie had to die because he was a phenomenon, like the jet engine, as some seem to believe?

I believe he took his sister’s place and accepted death..I believe this is relived in S.Darko..and I believe there is some reason everyone’s lives are interconnected..

This is taken off of a board discussion;it was not written by me:

The Philosophy of time travel is a philosophical theory that branches off from traditional christianity. Where ‘God’ controls all of the universe including time. Therefore time is predetermined But because god has given us free will we are able to change our futures (watch the scenes between Donnie and the male teacher they discuss all of this). Because we are able to change our futures and break from gods control it creates an imbalance in reality. On the night when the jet falls into Donnie’s bed in the beginning of the movie he had changed time and thus creating a tangent universe, not controlled by god. BEcause of its lack of godly control it will destroy itself within 28 days and take the primary universe (the actual universe) along with it.
So Donnie (referred to as the living receiver) must close the tangent universe before it implodes on itself. He is guided by two ‘angels’ or ‘agents’ sent via the forth dimension (water) this is Frank and Gretchin (and are referred to as manipulated dead) they have died inside the tangent universe, so closing the tangent universe would prevent their deaths.
Everyone else are manipulated living and help drive Donnie to his destiny. They will do anything to make sure their universe is not destroyed.
The only way to close the tangent universe is to die via the jet engine crushing him. Think about it though, if Donnie dies then he wouldnt burn the guy’s house,  meaning his mom wouldnt take the early flight back meaning no jet engine would break off.
There are more examples of occurences like this in the book, such as a mayan warrior dieing from a runaway arrow where there was no one around or a medieval knight being struck by a sword he was yet to make.
You cannot clump this entire movie into one simple phrase like, he did it to save his girlfriend or because he was scared of Frank. You cannot do this because Donnie tells us so, in reference to the ‘life’ line: “you cant just clump all of these emotions into two extremes (love and fear) and ignore the rest”

Throughout the entire movie there are many references to religion (namely christianity) almost all manipulated living are christian, he calls the pervert the anti-christ, the movie they watch is ‘christs final temptation’, Donnie: “I could spend my whole life debating over and over again, weighing the pros and cons, and in the end I still wouldn’t have any proof, so I just don’t debate it any more. (laughs) It’s absurd.”
Dr. Thurman: “The search for God is absurd?”
Donnie: “It is if everyone dies alone.”
“Do you mean God’s master plan? Do you now believe in God?”
“If the sky were to suddenly open up, there would be no law, there would be no rule. It would only be you and your memories, the choices you made, and the people you touched. If this world were to end, there would only be you, and him, and no one else.”


Where its stated:Because we are able to change our futures and break from gods control it creates an imbalance in reality, this brings to my mind the scene in S.Darko where the girl is meant to go into the tunnel..you see that the “path” breaks off, and the boy stated how she can choose not to do it, how she can’t be forced-do you remember that part?

Links I found useful:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_darko  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_Time_Travel  http://www.donniedarko.com/

I can’t imagine who could not have seen this movie, but I’m sure it’s possible someone out there hasn’t. For those that have not, here is a short summary:”When the Manipulated awaken from their Journey into the Tangent Universe, they are often haunted by the experience in their dreams. Many of them will not remember. Those who do remember the Journey are often overcome with profound remorse for the regretful actions buried within their Dreams”.The movie “Donnie Darko” is about Donnie’s first successful quest in ending the temporal paradox cycle or “time-loop” which he is caught in.When an engine from the Oct. 30 Parallel Universe drops (into the past), the Parallel Universe is gone and the Tangent Universe is created. Similarly, when the engine in the Oct. 30 Tangent Universe drops,the Tangent Universe collapses, and the Parallel Universe is reset back to the point we see in the beginning of the movie. This is the loop, and it continues until the engine does not drop in the Tangent Universe because it is sent back to the Parallel Universe by Donnie. Ending this repeating time-loop is directly how he saves the universe.At the intro, Donnie is laughing as if he remembers something, specifically his own survival in the previous tangent loop, when looking at the sky. This is where the movie begins, and it is also where the tangent is reset and the loop begins when Donnie is NOT successful. Then the loop continues as we see when the engine drops into the past via a time corruption to create the tangent universe. On that previous quest , Donnie did not send the artifact back. when he does and the time loop finally ends, he dies alone – as he always feared to- but with a sense of completion and relief (hence the laughter) and the accomplishment of saving the world, along with his family and friends.



S. Darko

S. Darko

Though I enjoyed S.Darko I really have to say that Donnie Darko was just fine as a stand-alone. There was absolutely NOTHING about Donnie Darko that I did not love-the actors, the music..I loved it all.  S. Darko mainly pulled me in because I already had a connection with the main character, Sam..You have this sense, this feeling of recognition..We may not have seen her perspective of what happened in the past (like I’d thought we would in this movie), yet we who saw Donnie Darko know this girl nonetheless and cannot forget that night when she was on stage and the “world came to an end”..Well, at least for Donnie it did..

I’ve added S. Darko to my ever growing movie collection where it will probably gather dust..As for Donnie Darko, that movie knows the inside of my DVD player better than any other.



Please feel free to share your thoughts on these movies.


~ by Daylilypetals on 10/16/2009.

3 Responses to “A Tangent Universe~ Donnie Darko and S.Darko”

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  2. Your alittle off… An artifact (the engine) fell threw a wormhole from the primary universe creating the tangent… The living receiver must then return the artifact to the primary universe or the tangent unsafely collapses creating a black hole destroying the primary universe with it described in philosophy of time travel… This proves that it cannot be a looping universe… The manipulated living subconsciously guide the living receiver to complete his task… The manipulated can remember parts of that time in the tangent which is why swazey iscrying and eventually offs himself (described on the website) and frank touches his eye… There is also a website dedicated to the explanation of this movie

  3. My .Title and name is Gunnery Sergeant R.TRACE United States Marine Corps.I honestly can’t say I’ve never heard nor seen the movie or even previews to the movie; once I started watching it I could not take my eyes off of it;the main character in dining Darko is outstanding never seen anything like it before missed of that caliber in my 43 years of life then I noticed that I’ve seen em in a previous movie called jarhead marine movie awesome movie Too,since watching Donnie Darko the first time it’s been on my mind and I’ve watched it several times it’s a great movie And Outstandings main character watching it again and honestly I’m not the type of person to watch a movie over and over again; movie is outstanding!!!!!

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